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In the Media Q&A With Laura Munson
In late
2023 into this year, Emi Battaglia was kind enough to connect me with several
authors for Q&A and did a Q&A with me herself. I have the honor of
collaborating with New York Times Bestselling Author Laura Munson again for
this edition of Authors In The Media. In this edition of Authors In The Media,
we will be discussing Laura’s writing retreat Haven Writing Programs in
Montana.
Q: How
did the idea for your writing retreat come about? Did the idea come
spontaneously, or did you think about it for a while and then one day decide,
let’s do it?
A: It
was a confluence of things that all came together at once: Being on a mission
to eradicate the tortured artist paradigm, knowing that writers need community
and usually don’t know how to find it, discovering that I have a teaching
spirit after my memoir This Is Not The Story You Think It Is came out and I heard from so many people all over the
globe who read it as a self-help book, being out on the road at my speaking
engagements seeing what daunts and dashes people in the realm of
self-expression, knowing what a lifeline writing can be after having lived the
writing life since 1988, and much more. I did it alone for the most part, but I
did have five blissful years in Seattle, in which my beloved writing group met
every Monday night without fail, and it prompted me to want to create that circle
for writers and bring people to the place which has been my major source of
inspiration for decades: Northwest Montana. A writing retreat in Montana…hmmm…
The idea
just kept coming after me, with retreat leader friends telling me that it would
be a perfect match for my skill sets and personality…and to be completely
honest here, just because you’re a bestselling author, it doesn’t mean you’re
rolling in the dough, and on top of it, I was in post-divorce reinvention. I
needed a steady job. I refused to lose my house for myself and for my children.
We’d designed and built it on acreage in one of the most glorious places on
earth. It held so many beautiful memories and possibilities for future
generations. It was, (and thankfully still is), our haven.
So one
day I put it on Facebook: “Hey, anyone want to come on a writing retreat with
me in Montana?” At that point, I had a lot of readers of my memoir and people
told me it was like reading a book written by their best friend. They said they
trusted me because I was willing to be transparent but emotionally responsible.
They felt like I was a kind but strong leader, and could tell that I wasn’t
interested in being anybody’s guru. Just a sister in words. A fellow seeker. A
word wanderer. I mean the book shows a woman writing her way through a crisis
and focusing on her well-being in the face of great rejection and not letting
it take her down. That made them feel safe with me, I guess, because in two
hours, twenty-four people signed up, and I knew I had something. So I created Haven Writing Retreats and haven’t looked back. Even if I was a gazillionaire, I
would still lead Haven. In many ways, outside of my mothering and my own
writing, Haven is the work of my life.
Q:
Laura, in our Q&A we briefly spoke about the Haven Writing Program &
that you created it to help writers where they were on their journey and helped
their craft grow. I think that’s amazing! How long have you had this writing
program for?
A: It’s
true. Haven meets each writer where they need to be met, and in any genre,
whether they’re just starting, or are actively working on a project, and
everything in-between. It makes for such a rich experience to be out of a
competitive environment, and truly with these elegant, seeking,
insightful minds. I started Haven in 2012 and over the years it’s grown
branches which include the original program, Haven I where it all begins, and
then Haven II for alums of Haven I who are writing books and know that if they want
to get to the finish line, they need a protocol and a dedicated writing group.
We hold it in my living room like an artist’s salon, where I teach them the
protocol I use in editing people’s work so that they can continue to support
each other in this very specific and masterful way, independent of me, which
saves them time and money in the end, and allows me to write my own books vs.
being a fulltime editor. Just because someone signs up to be in a writing group
doesn’t mean that they are good listeners, or have insightful comments, or are
even safe in a small group setting. So the Haven II method ensures that their
books are structurally sound, have multi-layered characters, and a narrative
that flows, and when I see those manuscripts at the Haven III level, when I
become their full time editor, those books are like most people’s ninth drafts!
I weep with joy every time. I’ve never had to take more than three passes
before it’s time to start looking for agents and publishers and other ways to
get their work out in the world!
Q:
Laura, what made you choose to have Montana as the location for your writing
retreat? Would you also please give a description of the location as though it
were in one of your books?
A: Part
I:
Montana has held my muse for three decades. Even though I
hail from Chicago, and have lived in other major cities, this wild place is
what has me on my knees every day. It serves up a whopping dose of truth and
abundance which has me running to my writing desk. For a while I was on the
speaking circuit, speaking at these massive 10,000 women conferences to
ballrooms of 2,000 women at a time, and after my speeches during the book
signings, I would hear the same things over and over again: I want to write.
I have a story to tell. And they would light up. And then the light would
fade, their body language would wilt, and they’d repeat the same refusals: who
do I think I am. Somebody already did it better than I ever could. It’s
self-indulgent at best. People would judge me. I’m not creative. I don’t have a
voice. It crushed me. And I thought, I need to get off these stages and get
these women to Montana to be in small, safe circles of support, inspiration,
and really move these stories out of people so that they can tell themselves
new ones, true ones, free ones, when it comes to their essential
self-expression.
Montana has become a major character on the retreat! I’ve
led Haven in chic urban hotels, at gorgeous retreat centers in California,
Morocco, Mexico, and at lovely resorts…and there’s just nothing like Montana
for this work, especially the Dancing Spirit Ranch where I’ve led Haven for the last eight years. The land.
The woods. The river. The meadows. The ponds. The gardens. The FOOD! The
refurbished beautiful historic barns. A one room schoolhouse! Miles of paths to
wander and wonder. So much love everywhere you look. Staring into the peaks of
Glacier National Park. Truly sublime.
Part II:
I love
this writing prompt! Thank you! People don’t give me writing prompts very
often! My novel, Willa’s Grove, while it isn’t about a writing retreat, it is about what
happens when people come together to intentionally share about their crossroads
moments, tell their stories in a trusting circle, and get support about how to
move forward in their lives. You can bet that it was inspired by what I see happen
at Haven, time and time again. I set that book in central Montana, an area I’ve
spent very little time in, but the land and the house is very much my own in
spirit, yet I imagine it all very differently in my mind. So if I was to write
about the place of Haven, it would be hard to match interior and exterior
terrain, because it’s all happening all at once for me. Here’s a try at the
exterior terrain you requested. I won’t overthink it or edit it. Just see what
flows… Which is, in part, how I teach the morning class at Haven.
***
It’s dawn. The geese have come back and their wings lap the
lake as they land in proven and proud migration patterns, finally home again. I
wonder how their southern winter was. Mine was long and gray but full of
writing. Now I am about to go into the first morning class at Haven, as a
teacher once again. A version of myself that I haven’t known since last
fall.
It’s another miraculous group of kindreds who don’t know
what they’re about to experience. I feel them having their coffee and tea in
front of the massive stone hearth in the main barn now, nervous and excited for
morning class. I’m nervous and excited too.
I go out onto the porch of the white cottage where I get to
stay for these sacred days, butter sun sending rays through the fog lifting off
the lake. I have a promise with the land here and so every morning I offer a
porch-prayer, given to the peaks of Glacier National Park and grounded by the
land of the Dancing Spirit Ranch:
Please help me allow Haven to give itself to me. Please
help my students allow Haven to give itself to them.
I stand in my robe and feel the March
Montana morning chill on my bare feet, knowing that it will warm as the day
goes by. People will wander in their words, and they will wander on this
ground. Sit in the one-room schoolhouse and write. Gather at the firepit or in
Adirondack chairs or at the hearth and share about things that they don’t talk
about in their regular lives: like creative flow and what blocks it. Books they
love. Books they are writing. Books they’d like to write. Essays, short
stories, poems, songs. Word wanderers coming together from all over the world,
strangers, but not really. Instead, kindred seekers give themselves this big,
beautiful thing called Haven.
It’s clear today and I can see all the
way down the Rocky Mountain front, to the Swan and Mission ranges. Such a big
sky, but such holding offered by this sacred place which will nourish us in
every way I hold dear. Word-wandering requires soul food and I know that the
ranch staff and I will provide as many opportunities for it in as many ways as
we know how. And with true love and pleasure and honoring in our hearts. We
will all be different by Sunday. These paths will know our soles and our souls.
These brave writers’ spirits will dance. They just don’t know it quite yet. But
I do.
I breathe in calm.
I breathe out a smile.
It’s time to begin Haven. Again.
Q: If I
understand this correctly, is the writing retreat like a camp where writers pay
a fee to stay at the retreat for however long so they can grow their writing
skills and confidence? Do you have a team of people helping you run the
retreat?
A: Haven
is a five day, deep-dive, writing retreat and workshop with a morning class
dedicated to craft instruction and intensive guided-writing exercises,
afternoon free time to write and have one-on-ones with me, and an evening
workshop wherein each writer shares work, usually something they’ve created on
the retreat that needs support. Some writers have worked with me as their
developmental editor prior to the retreat so their work is structurally sound
coming in but still needs support (structure is usually the hardest part for
writers), some writers come in with an idea but have no idea how to put it into
motion. Some just know that they want writing in their lives and not
necessarily for public consumption. They know it’s a powerful tool. In no way is
Haven a self-help retreat, but it can’t help but profoundly connect each
attendee deeply with themselves, and in many cases, for the first time.
You
wouldn’t want Haven to go longer than that, though many people choose to stay
in Whitefish afterward to explore Glacier National Park and to keep their
writing flame burning, post-retreat. I’ve had many alums who have come back
over and over again. It’s like their muse’s measuring stick. Who are they now?
How have they grown in their writing and in their lives? Some even say on the
last day, “You know…it’ll forever be before and after Haven.” I can speak about
it like this because it’s not about me. It’s just the magic of Haven and the
magical people who allow it to give itself to them. It’s so rare to be held
safely in a small group, outside of scrutiny, competition, ambition, the need
to be a “success,” the need to prove, and the crushing need for perfection…and
to just be gentle with yourself and your pen. Because of all of this, and the
extraordinary Dancing Spirit Ranch, I see major shifts happen for people.
Boulders just roll off their backs that they didn’t even realize they’ve been
bearing, sometimes for years and years. They look like different people on
Sunday when we say our goodbyes. And I love that these groups usually stay
together. They know they’ve been through something life-changing together, so
why would they not honor that.
Q:
Laura, how does it feel knowing that you’ve helped over 1,000 writers? I
think that’s also amazing!
A: Me
too! Thank you for acknowledging it. It’s like a miracle to me. Here’s my knee
jerk response: It’s not about me and it can’t be about me. In fact, before
someone is accepted into Haven, we have a one-hour Haven Intro Call in which
they share about their writing dreams no matter how big or small, and then I
tailor-make my presentation based on how I think Haven could be a match for
them. One of my most important talking points is this: When you’re looking for
a retreat, it has got to be about the program, not the retreat leader. I
designed the program based on what I know writers need, having lived the
writing life all my adult life. But it’s the program that holds my
attendees. I hold the program, the incredible ranch staff holds me, and the
miles and miles of pristine Montana land holds all of us…so it’s a highly
healthy symbiosis. I believe that this is the reason Haven changes lives. I
watch it happen over and over again, retreat after retreat. And now with over
1,000 alums, I have to believe that there is a Haven ripple in the world that
is making its way…through books, through self-expression, through kindness and
community, through having the potent tool that is writing to help navigate this
beautiful and heartbreaking thing called life. And yes…it feels really good. I
also am able to offer partial scholarships through my Haven Foundation, so
we’ve been able to support people who would never be able to afford it
otherwise. And when I put my head on the pillow at the end of the day, that
feels really good too.
Q: For
future authors who want to write and attend Haven Writing Program, what is your
advice for them?
A: We
write in solitude, yes. But our writing is born out of our experiences, many of
them, if not most, in community. Don’t forget that piece of it. Writing is
living. Eventually it comes down to pen on paper or fingertips on a keyboard,
or whatever device we use to get our words out of us. But living the writing
life means living in a way that helps you find what you need to say. And you
don’t have to do it alone. Find support. Find a mentor. Find a writing partner.
Find a writing group. And fight for your writing. No one asks us to write, and
like anything that requires every cell in our bodies to be activated in order
to produce what we want to produce…it’s hard, and often thankless work. If you
know you want to write, you must fight for it. But please…be kind to yourself.
Develop an Inner Champion. I’ve got two books coming out in the next two years
that are all about the how behind this concept. I can’t wait to share
them with the world. I hope they help.
Q: How
can we spread the word about the Haven Writing Program? I know you already get
a ton of students; I say the more the merrier.
A:
Indeed! A lot of it is word-of-mouth now but we need people like you to help
people find this completely unique and unparalleled program. So thank you for
giving me the chance to toot its horn! If you are interested in setting up a
Haven Intro Call with me, go to my website and you’ll see how to contact me. If you are a seeker, and
a word-wanderer…then quite possibly…Haven is for you.